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Carl said in June 20th, 2010 at 11:25 am

They’d have to stop hating them first.
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saidyes said in June 20th, 2010 at 12:01 pm

this is one of those stupid azz joke questions yes?

i will just laugh and take this with humour…and assume that you are taking a pisss at us! haha

good one

EDIT: Jackal, Happy Snappy or I should cut and paste this question as one of our questions – it will get a good laugh 2nd time around as well!
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Happy Snappy said in June 20th, 2010 at 12:20 pm

HAHAHAHAH TROLL :)

Wondering why you can’t find a pink-is-the-new-navy, secure in his masculinity (read: feminine and indistinguishable from a homosexual) SNAG that earns more than you and is more than happy for you to divorce him so he can pay more child support for a child born by in vitro fertilisation, whilst learning how to "scissor" does not a healthy relationship make.

EDIT: LOL.. devil’s advocette the still trying to meet a "nice-guy looking to take it slow (who must NOT be interested in an intimate encounter)" through online dating feminist starred the question! Hahahaha!

Have a star for your troll question Flyinghorse.. hahah
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Gun_fanatic said in June 20th, 2010 at 12:54 pm

**** no!

No Man in his right mind would go out with a feminist. You have to extremelly desperate or a complete idiot to be in a relationship with one.
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Lioness said in June 20th, 2010 at 1:20 pm

I believe anybody who values herself and can function independently (emotional/mental included) lives a healthier life. Now, whether this translate into long-term relationships with men, I can’t answer. I actually think anti-feminists or those who are not independent are most likely to stay in a relationship due to need, fear, guilt or obligation—remaining in an unhealthy relationship. The last generations are great examples of such. Some husbands cheated and abused and the women didn’t have the financial freedom or social/legal support to walk away.

In conclusion: Feminists in healthy relationships-yes, because a relationship to a feminist is an equal exchange for the right reasons, rather than need.
Feminists in more romantically long-term relationships—jury still out
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Spuddy said in June 20th, 2010 at 1:27 pm

I suppose you could consider me a feminist.
I am 21 and have been in a very successful relationship with a man for 3 years now. Neither of us believe it gender roles; we believe our genders just make up an aspect of who we are, they do not define us. We also mutually make the decisions that affect us both, and weigh each other’s opinion’s equally.
And just a little side note here to be a bit of a narcissist, I’m actually much more superficially "feminine" than most of the women who think they’re cute as a button when they bash feminists.
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Cassius said in June 20th, 2010 at 2:01 pm

No feminists divorce their husbands. Its what they do.

Also Happy I like what you write usually but again with the low blows o.O you have been around feminists too much, are you studiing by any chance ?
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Kellie said in June 20th, 2010 at 2:26 pm

I think the issue you’re overlooking is that a lot of women who call themselves "feminists" nowadays may not be like you. They don’t respect their men. In fact, I often see them belittling them, talking to their friends about them behind their backs, limiting their freedom and self esteem, screaming about how important their careers are instead of ever wondering how it affects their families, etc. These are behaviors I do not support. Feminism used to mean something. To me it is now merely the pendulum of "power" swinging way too far the other way.

I am an anti-feminist and, just as you said you do, I respect my man and he respects me.

Hope this helped.
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©å®®?? said in June 20th, 2010 at 2:50 pm

I’m only going by what I’ve observed in this forum.

The antis constantly ask questions about relationships and don’t think any woman will ever go out with them unless it’s to steal their money (hmmm… okay, maybe that one’s true, but it’s not a reflection of women in general, but a reflection of the trolls’ sh!tty personalities), they make up imaginary girlfriends in their mind from poor countries that they can buy, yet these girlfriends will really, really love them for who they are and there is NO WAY they would be with them only for their money. So yeah, they do seem pretty sour and lonely.

I have never seen a regular here complain or seem bitter about her love life.

Interesting.

Edit: I’d also like to add that I’ve been with my boyfriend for almost three years, and like Bijou’s husband/partner, he’s not necessarily a feminist (he’s kind of apolitical, although he would consider himself left-wing… but then again we’re in Canada, so that’s not surprising). We rarely fight, we’re good communicators, and most importantly, we’re EQUAL. He’s 30 so he’s lived on his own for years, so he’s perfectly capable of cleaning up, just like all adults do. We both have happy social lives and separate interests, and honestly, I think we have a GREAT relationship. And no, I never talk sh!t behind his back – he’s my partner, my best friend, my roommate, everything – I have no reason to.
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bijou said in June 20th, 2010 at 3:19 pm

All I can say is that I’ve been with Mr. Right for over 11 years now and we are very happy. He’s a ‘man’s man’ that also happens to be a humanist. It probably helps that being black, he’s all too aware of discrimination and refuses to be part of misogynistic hate. I wouldn’t call him a feminist per se, he does share feminist idealogy, he’s certainly not anti-feminist, just a very well rounded person…….with big sexy muscles (not the veiny bulging ugly kind, more the Matthew McConnghay kind).

Kellie: I know plenty of more ‘traditional’ (non-feminist) women that do the same thing. That type of behaviour is hardly reserved for feminists. Geeeeeeeeez.

Anyone that is anti-feminist is anti-humanist, and therefore I find their opinions not only misguided but completely worthless.

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Modest Pro- Why do we have to keep spelling this out for some of you on here?There are many types of feminism that range from to extreme to mild interest. Some are active some aren’t. One outspoken extremist feminist does not necessarily represent the views of the rest of us. Contrary to Daly, I DON’T think society would be better off without men. I happen to love all the men in my life. I couldn’t imagine a world without my Dad in it. Should we then assume you are anti-feminist or misogynistic? Since you don’t like feminism, am I to make the same assumption that you have? That you are some kind of extremist freak show??? Are you????
DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION??

Gawd ladies, we have to say the same thing over and over again. I feel like a fuckin’ broken record. When will you guys ‘GET IT’? *searching for hammer to pound this into their heads…..*
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Monkey said in June 20th, 2010 at 3:30 pm

Lyinghorse is at it again. Your not fooling me, most of the feminists on here haven’t had a date in years.
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modest_proposer said in June 20th, 2010 at 4:18 pm

bijou:
"Anyone that is anti-feminist is anti-humanist, and therefore I find their opinions not only misguided but completely worthless. "
Have you read of the feminist writings of Daly, Dworkin, Brownmiller, or Wolf? Have you studied any feminist theory? Perhaps you accept their underlying premise that feminism is the radical proposition that ONLY women are human.
Feminism is nominally about equality, but it fudges the methods and criteria. It defines person in feminine terms, and excludes masculine input on the matter of what "human" is.
Once the discourse is fudged in this way, it can be said that feminism is humanism, but only by accepting that underlying premise above.
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Rio Madeira said in June 20th, 2010 at 4:40 pm

I would expect so, since the most successful marriages have been found to be the most equitable.
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ebmid2 said in June 20th, 2010 at 4:50 pm

No. You said yourself, many feminists "have opted to be alone by choice." Now, no one is disputing that most of them could get a man if they wanted to. But the fact that they’re such man haters that they don’t even want to get into a relationship at all isn’t healthy.

Also, it may be true that women are more likely to be in a healthy relationship if they date men who treat women with respect. But that’s true regardless of whether or not the woman is a feminist. Also, just because someone treats women with respect doesn’t mean they’re a feminist. Modern feminism is just about man hating.
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Red H said in June 20th, 2010 at 4:56 pm

25 years and counting………………….
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wendy g said in June 20th, 2010 at 5:24 pm

I’ve been with my husband for over ten years, arguments are very few and far between (I think our last one was over a year ago). We love being together. I can’t imagine myself with anyone else. He is IT.
What I find interesting is how a lot of the anti’s talk about how evil, conniving, and "unfair" women are…but they never talk about their relationships with women. Yet, they say that WE are incapable of loving relationships…is anyone else seeing the incongruity here? And the extreme PROJECTION?
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steve.57343 said in June 20th, 2010 at 6:07 pm

No……
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kate lomax said in June 20th, 2010 at 6:21 pm

Absolutely correct.
My female friends are all in long term relationships with good men.
That is not to say that they do not have their ups and downs but the mutual respect they have for their respective partners means that they all have been able to ride the waves.
It intrigues me that the men who persistently attack the regular female posters appear to have no life whatsoever.
If they were in relationships they would not be able to afford the time they do to posting in this particular forum.
It also begs the question why they do.
From my perspective I believe they post on here because they are all socially inept at relationships, hence they get a kick out of haranguing the positive women who post on here.
They will never go away because sadly this forum is their life and they have nothing else to do in their spare time.
So we should never take offence at them, merely pity them.
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fraxinus26 said in June 20th, 2010 at 6:52 pm

It used to be a laugh to see all the little Flat Earthers pop out every time a poster asked a reasonable question in GWS. We now know who you all are and where you live.

By now we shouldn’t need to number our feminist friends in permanent relationships with men to explain unpalatable truths to fixed minds. Or tell of the number of their sons who are making easy-going relationships with clever women. There ARE a number of early guerillas in the movement who choose to live alone as a rest from domestic responsiblilty, but they look so comfortable, it should surprise nobody they get offers from committed men fairly regularly, but mostly because they are good cooks.

These people are the spearhead of the movement that few of the flat-earthers will ever meet socially, so with no example before them to prove friendship with a feminist is possible, they will be cluttering up women’s lives until they run out of steam in 25 years time.
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waswisgirl1 said in June 20th, 2010 at 7:07 pm

For a long time I was with a woman, so my perspective about relationships in general is: the better the communication, the better the relationship.

I’m in a relationship now with a man, and have been for a year, and assume I’ll be with him the rest of my life (once I commit, I stay a long time).

I have to admit the feminists I know have had their ups and downs, but overall, they have excellent relationships with their partners, not because their partners have the same views, but because both partners treat each other with respect, love, and dignity.
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